The magister saw something in young Elminster and offered to train him in magic. In 1479 DR, he set out to find a cure for his love. Jun 18, 2015. cancertz. No way. Check him out on twitter: @TheAmazingAri. He was associated with light and fire, much like his peer Varda. Darth_Tyrev. Elminster Aumar (born in 212 DR) is a fictional character in the Dungeons & Dragons-based Forgotten Realms setting. In the early hours of Hammer 1, 1372 DR, Elminster entered the portal and narrowly managed to close it, but at the expense of much of his magical strength. And this picture alone is legitimate proof that Elminster is indeed Gandalf's Ultimate Imitator, something more people need to come to realize. Gandalf wins, definitively! When Mystra was killed for trying to return to the heavens, it left Elminster powerless for a time. Elminster 204 Votes. and Galahad (spank me! the Legion of Mortal Godlings. This thread is archived. Merlin is from original Arthurian legend not Marvel. R. Rallan My Hat Of d02. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. More importantly, they should do some Forgotten Realms movies one day. ... Elminster. Merlin is a cambion, basically a demi-demon. He sat on the ruling council which formed the Harpers, a secretive order of spellcasters who seek to prevent the abuse of magic. I'm going to start with a literary, rather than a fanboy ("Do you think the Thing could beat the Hulk?") Pools of Darkness; Risen; Risen 2: Dark Waters; Secret of the Silver Blades; Space Siege; Star Wars: KotOR; Star Wars: KotOR II; System Shock 2; Temple of Elemental Evil Related: 10 Tricks That'll Help You Playing D&D For the First Time. Information. "Doppelganger!" Dungeons & Dragons has helped launch a number of fantasy writers including Ed Greenwood under the Forgotten Realms landscape. In his \"youth\", he became one of the Maiar who served Manwë, Varda, Irmo and Nienna named. the wizards scream in unison and unleash their magic against the other. He was tortured by devils and subjected to acts of utter brutality until Mystra was able to hear Elminster’s plight. 317 Votes. Grandolf vs. Elminster would be more fitting (Elminster would win, of course). 11-15-2010, 08:34 AM. I imagine both are too clever to go all-out against each other directly, rather using minions/allies, etc. Izrador vs Gandalf? Mario and Sonic, Alien and Predator, Terminator and Robocop, Batman and Superman, Picard and Kirk, Elminster and Raistlin, Darth Vader and Seven of Nine, Gandalf and Merlin, Bahamut and Tiamat, Splinter and Shredder, Bond and Phelps, Trebek and Sajak, McGwire and Sosa, Shaq and Jordan, Kerrigan and Harding, Leno and Letterman, Cronkite and Brokaw, and Windows and Macintosh. As Salvatore’s Drow elf Drizzt Do’Urden is the quintessential fighter of the Forgotten Realms, Elminster is the quintessential wizard of the realms. May 6, 2010 #3 Karsa Orlong may well be the biggest fantasy badass ever. Each of them has access to his signature items (for Raistlin, this means: The Staff of Magius, the Dragon Orb and the Dagger of Magius), but nothing else. Elminster is (maybe was) a Chosen of Mystra.He is magically old old old. May 6, 2010 #4 The annoying "comedy … Mystra explained that she was the living embodiment of the Weave, and she wished him to learn from her so he may protect it. ... Elminster vs Rincewind (Score: 4, Insightful) by javajawa on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @02:54PM Homepage. It was originally created by author and game designer Ed Greenwood as a setting for his own stories, but after he discovered D&D he adapted it to the game system. Since its inception, Dungeons & Dragons has prominently featured wizards and the powerful magic they weave. Elminster continues to be active in the 1490s, the era currently explored in D&D’s Fifth Edition, helping Toril recover from the ravages of the Spellplague and fending off the evil that would harm the world he calls home. OptimusPrime - Member. Elminster’s soul was preserved, but it took Simbul sacrificing her life and the last of her energy to restore Elminster’s physical form. Post by Andragohn » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:34 pm. Reply. Intentionally drawing inspiration from mythical and literary figures like Odin, Merlin and Gandalf, Elminster is the Forgotten Realms’ gray-bearded, pointy hat wearing, pipe-smoking, immortal sage. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. For nearly a hundred years, Elminster lived like this, growing bitter. He was starring at his reflection. Reply. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) fantasy role-playing game.Commonly referred to by players and game designers alike as "The Realms", it was created by game designer Ed Greenwood around 1967 as a setting for his childhood stories. He spent years serving as a priestess of Mystra, calling herself Elmara. W. Wolfwood2 Registered User. Eventually, he was shown the magic to alter his form by a wizard named Myrjala. Puffs of smoke rings chased one another above his head forming a chain before dissipating. Nov 19, 2020 #20 Peace proved to be out of reach for Elminster, as Mystra was murdered in 1385 DR by the and gods Cyric and Shar, which started a cataclysmic event called the Spellplague. Elminster 204 Votes. Goose and Lord of Legend. This Rumble ended on 2003-02-15 00:00:00.0. save hide report. Fascinated with the manifestation, Gandalf reaches down to touch the surface of the pool. Several years later, Greenwood brought the setting to publication for the D&D game as a series of magazine articles, and … +1 for Elminster. Solomon Kane vs Elminster? Venage237's wall > Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? Reply. He was born in the year 212 DR to the now non-existent kingdom of Athalantar. Gandalf is an archangel, but that doesn't mean much. Battle for magical supremacy on modern day earth. However, his body was destroyed by Manshoon, the leader of his old foes, the Zhentarim. Izrador vs Gandalf? I finally completed reading the Harry Potter series last night. Validated User. In a flash of brilliant light the phantasm of the mirror appears in front of him. He's a shapeshifter, and may be prophetic. He was present for the Time of Troubles, which saw the gods walk the world of Toril and wage war with each other. But his enmity with the Zhentarim would have tragic consequences later on. The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off. Mar 29, 2015. He trained some of the great and famous wizards of yore - the Seven Sisters, the mad necromancer who founded The Cult of the Dragon, Khelben Blackstaff (well, maybe not him). OptimusPrime Member; 4273 posts; Share; Posted March 9, 2010. Though he was the rightful heir to the throne of Athalantar, he abdicated and placed a friend in his stead, having no taste for ruling. _____ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. A natural storyteller, Elminster is normally a witty, clever, and very charming man. D. dead First Post. January 2014 edited January 2014. Who would emerge the victor if these two legendary mages fought it out? Fascinated with the manifestation, Gandalf reaches down to touch the surface of the pool. The novel is considered to be the third best ever written. Gandalf’s initial appearance is as a wizard, but later on Gandalf appears as the chief of the Istari order after Saruman’s fall. And Elminster has ludicrously high levels. It is even rumored he had a hand in the founding of the city of Waterdeep, or at the very least creating its hierarchy of lords. share. Gandalf leaned heavily on his staff staring into the magical reflecting pool. Azzy Newtype. If I'm the only one who votes, then so be it! Myrjala revealed herself to have been Mystra in disguise all along, there to test him. the Legion of Mortal Godlings. Rand vs. Gandalf? 6 comments. IAmTheMeat. Then his reflection blinked! Straight Dope Message Board > Main > Cafe Society > Voldemort vs Gandalf (or other wizards) PDA. Gandalf's magic isn't even a close match to Rand channeling the OP. Yes. KEEP READING: Baldur's Gate 3 Demo Teases a Triumphant Return, Ari David is pretty amazing. 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Unbeknown to Elminster, the magister was an agent of Mystra, and she wanted the young man to become a wizard. If there is a wizard show down, it should be Ged vs. Gandalf vs. Polgara; one big three-way match ;) For at lease one simple reason - Dumbledore, powerful as he was, still share the same weakness literally ALL Harry Potter universe characters have: They relies on their wands too much - even Voldemort. Now, groups can certainly choose to play those exact characters if they want but that is generally not the case. Sidekick: The Chosen of Mystra, a.k.a. He rarely reveals the full extent of his true nature to anyone who is not an extremely close friend. Elminster Aumar (Dungeons & Dragons) Hellboy; History . Mystra was eventually reincarnated through a wizard named Midnight, restoring Elminster's power. 1 of 2 Go to page. The rich text editor does not work with JavaScript switched off. It was originally created by author and game designer Ed Greenwood as a setting for his own stories, but after he discovered D&D he adapted it to the game system. 4: One of Gandalf's most powerful foes he killed was The Belrog of Morgoth while one of Elminster's most powerful foes he fought and disposed of was The Avatar of Bane (Gandalf eventually finished off the Belrog of Morgoth by a series of lightning strikes while Elminster on the other hand disposed The Avatar of Bane as they did battle in his tower, as both were caught up in the spell that Elminster had … Long time D&D fans may remember the Elminster series and what he was like as a wizard. He trained some of the great and famous wizards of yore - the Seven Sisters, the mad necromancer who founded The Cult of the Dragon, Khelben Blackstaff (well, maybe not him). Gandalf didnt make the horses appear from the river water. If I'm the only one who votes, then so be it! That's a rough breakdown of the advantages each mage has in the conflict. Each of them has access to his signature items (for Raistlin, this means: The Staff of Magius, the Dragon Orb and the … But every day I will advance one side. Belit vs Red Sonja (Oh, my)? Sidekick: The Chosen of Mystra, a.k.a. Elminster Elminster Aumar is a fictional character in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, also known as … Pick your winners! This seems like such a traditional arch-type in D&D, that I'm surprised this hasn't already been done. Yoda vs. Gandalf vs. Dumbledore vs. Brom from eragon This topic is locked from further discussion. If you like our work, please support us. You could argue that this is soft magic (and in some ways it is), but it has hard rules and has to obey physics. Jan 5, 2017. smallhorses. The Weave collapsed, and Elminster lost many of his abilities as a Chosen of Mystra. W. Wolfwood2 Registered User. I think it was agreed upon in DnD revisions that the wish spell is causality manipulation ZacharyGrossman273 (talk) 22:10, October 30, 2018 (UTC) You can talk with some of the participants about it via their message walls. Besides, Gandalf and Elminster are kind of unreal characters - even the books dealing with them as up-and-coming mages are afterthoughts; Raistlin is the one that truly develops. Gandalf has the most innate power of the three (Elminster got a lot of help from Mystra whenever the yogurt hit the fan). Gandalf is one of the main characters in The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings respectfully. Gandalf the Grey, as he is known through most of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy, is the epitome of a wizened old wizard – possibly owing to Merlin’s influence and possibly influencing Elminster’s appearance as well. Yes, the Harry Potter franchise made wizards young, but the idea of a wizard in pop culture is still one of an old man. 13 years ago. In a flash of brilliant light the phantasm of the mirror appears in front of … 264 Votes, Gandalf Being one of the wisest of the Maiar, Gandalf originally started life as a Maia of Irmo the Dream-Master in addition to Nienna the Weeper, Manwe the Wind-King and Vara the Star-Queen. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. BOBBY: My name is Robert De Loungville. Merlin vs. Gandalf This Fight Suggested By: Joao Camilo, The Big Bad W0lf Robin, RiggsAntor, Dr. I'd really like to be able to make an Elminster / Gandalf type of human Arch-Mage wielding a staff that's not a gimp, flavor build. In looks, sure. Elminster looks in confusion at the man before him. 10 Age: Gandalf. Reply. Thread starter dead; Start date May 11, 2004; 1; 2; Next. May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? In the following years, Mystra has returned to life for a second time, restoring Elminster’s full powers. 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Each character is at the height of their power. Elminster's patron died, and he's now essentially powerless. Gandalf vs Elminster Aumar as well as Albus Dumbledore vs Obi-Wan Kenobi. View Full Version : Voldemort vs Gandalf (or other wizards) Scuba_Ben. There any doubt? … Knights of Neraka vs. Knights who say Ni. But not so prophetic that he could see that teaching a cute young thing all of his magic would lead to his death. Elminster vs Rincewind (Score: 4, Insightful) by javajawa ( 126489 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @02:54PM ( #11151043 ) Homepage I think it is a tossup between Elminster … Reply. His backstory and further adventures have been explored in a series of novels from creator Ed Greenwood, starting with Elminster: The Making of a Mage in 1994, and continuing to appear in 13 novels over the decades. Gandalf or Saruman are two examples that we often see within the game. Elminster settled in a land called the Dales, keeping his tower outside the town of Shadowdale. Originally called Olórin, he was accounted as the wisest of the Maiar (with the possible exception of Melian). I'm also completely ignoring TV and movies, and sticking to written sources. Validated User. share. Gandalf from The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings vs Elminster from Dungeons & Dragon's Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (if Deadliest Warrior did this, it be live action no doubt). Pick your winners! There was something different in the eyes, something foreign. However, Elminster's background is significantly different from that of Gandalf. Nov 23, 2014. Since its inception, Dungeons & Dragons has prominently featured wizards and the powerful magic they weave. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Submit Templates; Contact Us; FAQ; Legal & Policies She sent Halaster Blackcloack, the Mad Mage of Undermountain into the Nine Hells, but he was defeated. Gandalf the Grey Gandalf the Grey . Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. He fits the same mold as Dumbledore or Obi-Wan Kenobi -- burdened with wisdom and responsibility, yet charming, and possessing a surprisingly good sense of humor. Elminster escaped with his life, taking his grandfather’s broken sword as his only keepsake from home. I think it is a tossup between Elminster the archmage, and rincewind. Name Something you've created: The need for a library devoted to cataloguing all the things I've created. Next Last. approach to this. Sauron vs Thoth-amon? I'm curious how Voldemort would hold up against Gandalf or other very powerful wizards of other series. And in keeping with the mage vs. mage theme, Raistlin vs. Elminster and a few Black Mage fights. Azzy Newtype. It was worse for Simbul who needed to feed off of magical items in order to stay sane. His father Elthryn was one of the seven sons of Uthgrael Aumar who had left the palace intrigues to settle in the nearby village of Heldon, where he served as its lord. elminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,186. I think it was agreed upon in DnD revisions that the wish spell is causality manipulation ZacharyGrossman273 (talk) 22:10, October 30, 2018 (UTC) You can talk with some of the participants about it via their message walls. He was taught many lessons, including Mystra turning him into a woman in order to gain a greater understanding of the world and a stronger connection to the Weave. Over the next thousand years, Elminster was involved in many of the world-changing events that occurred on Toril. They meet in a pocket plane. 6 comments. Elminster VS Szass Tam This Rumble ended on 2003-01-25 00:00:00.0. May 6, 2010 #3 In looks, sure. Created by author and Forgotten Realms designer Ed Greenwood, Elminster was introduced in 1985. They meet in a pocket plane. Mystra's Chosen > All. By naming a particular being or kind of being as you cast the spell, you cause the gate to open in the immediate vicinity of the desired creature and pull the subject through, willing or unwilling. He writes and writes about Film, TV, Comics, and Games from his lair in Brooklyn. He was present when a potent magical ward called the mythal was raised, transforming the city of Cormanthor into the Elven stronghold of Myth Dranor. He was created by Ilúvatar before the Music of the Ainur, and was at the beginning of Time amongst the Ainur who entered into Eä. THE SCENARIO . Dumbledore and Ganondorf are right out. Go. Elminster was swayed and began to worship the goddess under her tutelage. 67% Upvoted. He finshes it by handing the title over to Merlin, who persuaded Gandalf to go put the fix on thsoe losers. Name: Elminster Favorite Spell: Seduce Mystra Arch-Enemy: I'm too powerful to have enemies. Thank you! More importantly, they should do some Forgotten Realms movies one day. Obviously some foul magic was at hand. Eventually, he was rescued by a Chosen of Mystra named Simbul, and the two developed a relationship. Strictly by your votes. Artist-Azar. Elminster vs. Mordenkainen. It's a bit like comparing Gandalf with Dumbledore. Like Gandalf in LotR. Gandalf is one of the main characters in The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings respectfully. Ever intend to finish up Link vs Simon Belmont? He’s known as a fierce protector of these lands, having defended the Dales from the insidious forces of the Zhentarim. My friends call me Bobby. So prepare your forbidden books and steadily growing beards, magic fans, as we at Screen Rant ask Dumbledore Vs. Gandalf: Who's the Better Wizard? Click the button below to start this article in quick view. They are the famed wizards Merlin and Gandalf. Sorry, but if anyone's gonna teach this girl some new tricks, it's gonna be Merlin. That was Aerowin, Steven Tyler's daughter. ), while Gandalf hangs around short guys with furry feet! Reply. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on … RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons: Exploring Chult, the Dinosaur-Filled Jungle. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. We have got Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White for the Ainu Olórin both with and without Narya. Any of the three could win on any given day. For several ages now, two sages have graced the halls of the Inter-Dimensional Retirement Community located on the estates of the Khazan Wizards Guild. Copying the relevant mechanics of gate from the 3.5 SRD: "The second effect of the gate spell is to call an extraplanar creature to your aid (a calling effect). Reply. Serious. Raistlin Majere vs Elminster. Jim Butcher's wizards do magic by imagining a thing and making said thing real by pouring magic energy into it with their will. Okay, it's the battle you all waited for: Elminster of Shadowdale vs Raistlin Majere.We use the D20/D&D 3E versions of them. ... Like Gandalf in LotR. Then Gandalf strides in, points out that fourth edition spell-slingers are pussies, stares them all down at once while they cry home to mama. Sauron vs Thoth-amon? Okay, it's the battle you all waited for: Elminster of Shadowdale vs Raistlin Majere.We use the D20/D&D 3E versions of them. Alternatively, we imagine the learned, book bound, intelligent mastermind who always has a spell to help or hinder in any situation. Over 1,200 years old as of Fifth Edition, Elminster has experienced his share of victories and tragedies across more lifetimes than most beings could understand. Each character is at the height of their power. He tried to survive as a bandit and cutthroat, but found himself disliking the notion of killing. He eventually resorted to burglary and was caught robbing the home of Stonecloak, a powerful spellcaster. P. PrinceYyrkoon Retired User. Battle for magical supremacy on modern day earth. Impressed by Elminster, she asked him to be one of her Chosen -- an immortal being imbued with incredible power over the Weave. He can portray himself as a trickster, a ra… My bet is on Rand vs. Aslan...Savior vs. Savior...ha ha. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Validated User. Any of the three could also be beaten on any given day. He set up shop in some small town to 'plug the cork' vs a Dark Threat To All The Realms. It’s really a tough question since there are so many “versions” of them. Joined Oct 1, 2010 Messages 1,611. RPG Crossing Home: Forums: Create An Account! Elminster Elminster Aumar is a fictional character in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, also known as … Elminster is (maybe was) a Chosen of Mystra.He is magically old old old. John Constantine vs. Dr. Stephen Strange vs. Elminster vs. Gandalf vs. Dumbledor vs. Merlin vs. Medivh. Solomon Kane vs Elminster? May 6, 2010 #2 Yyrkoon would be near the top I think. Elminster Aumar battles fiends in the Nine Hells, by Matthew Stawicki. Be they Gandalf, Elminster, Skywalker, Valen, Superman etc etc etc. Tomorrow will be the right side, etc. Tomorrow will be the right side, etc. Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice . Antvasima (talk) 08:55, October 31, 2018 (UTC) Fate had other plans for Elminster, and after years of adventures, he found himself visited by the goddess, Mystra. Well, first of all, Gandalf just doesn't have the sex appeal of Sam Neill! Yet his ways often took him to Nienna, fro… Site Rules & Help : RPG Crossing > Discussions ... And in keeping with the mage vs. mage theme, Raistlin vs. Elminster and a few Black Mage fights. Pug vs Harry Potter Merlin vs Kvothe Fizban vs Mazrim Taim Macros vs Gandolf Feel free to describe how the battle would take place. Gandalf the Grey is a wizard character from a fantasy novel Hobbit written in 1937 by J.R.R.Tolkein, an English professor of Oxford University. RELATED: The Most Powerful Wizards In The Harry Potter Universe, Ranked. The Sidekick UA Spellcaster is somebody that studied under Gandalf/Elminster/Insert whatever higher tier variant which would be represented by its ability to reach up to 9th level spells. Lionelion Member since: Jun. You call me sir. But every day I will advance one side. Donate. 3781. Artist-Azar. Wondering what it was about it that bothered him. On the understanding of hard vs soft magic, it depends. September 2014 in Off-Topic. Name: Elminster Favorite Spell: Seduce Mystra Arch-Enemy: I'm too powerful to have enemies. They are a fan-favorite class that allow players to enjoy the fantasy of being an all-knowing, fireball hurling, master of the arcane, but on Toril, the world of the popular Forgotten Realms setting, there is no wizard more legendary than Elminster Aumar, the Sage of Shadowdale. - Winston S. Churchill 07-02-2004, 02:06 PM #8: Cerek the Barbaric. Elminster Aumar. Sorvan76 Member Posts: 76. RELATED: Dungeons & Dragons Does Greek Mythology In Magic: The Gathering Theros Crossover. Bobby De Loungville versus Gareth Bryne. Usually, wizards are pretty old. Once in Hell, he was abducted and enslaved by an outcast archdevil known as Nergal, who wished to discover the secret of Mystra's silver fire. Strictly by your votes. Nobody knows what he's capable of except in a few brief moments when he starts casting his crazy spells to jam doorways, set the forest ablaze with eldritch fire, duel the balrog, etc. Solamnic Knights vs. Knights of the Holy Grail, Scions (of DragonLance) vs. Scions (of Shannara), Queen of Darkness vs. Crown Prince of Darkness, Blister Vera Jay Nimblefingers vs. Olive Rustkettle, Blister Vera Jay Nimblefingers vs. Paxina Thistleknot, Billee Belladonna Juniper vs. Gollum/Sméagol, Paxina Thistleknot vs. Billee Belladonna Juniper. 29, 2009 Mar 29, 2015. Antvasima (talk) 08:55, October 31, 2018 (UTC) chris777 Registered User. P. PrinceYyrkoon Retired User. However, Elminster's background is significantly different from that of Gandalf. But having developed an intense hatred of magic as a result of his parent’s murder, he refused. The best part of the 10th Anniversary of DDO...the description on the Oatmeal Raisin Kookie, "From a distance you thought this was a chocolate chip kookie. Raistlin vs Gandalf General Discussion. Elminster Now Elminster again, he sought to return to his home to free it of the magelords. And this picture alone is legitimate proof that Elminster is indeed Gandalf's Ultimate Imitator, something more people need to come to realize. Serious. To be honest, the two don't really compare, because although they're both D&D settings, they're both very different. In 1372 DR, he sealed himself behind a portal to the Nine Hells so he could prevent hordes of devils from entering Toril and wreaking havoc. Merlin is from original Arthurian legend not Marvel. Elminster has literally been to hell and back. He still aged slowly, but could only cast the simplest of spells without going mad. He can be imperious, grave, and terrible, however, and furthermore is a consummate actor. She taught him of the Weave, the invisible threads that make magic possible in the Forgotten Realms. Despite Elthryn’s desire to remain uninvolved, he and his wife Amrythale were slain by the evil mage lord, Undarl. Plotting and planning - playing a long, protracted, chess-like game against one another. Forgotten Realms is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. I never paid much attention to Dragonlance (please keep the insults and demands for my being burned at a stake to a minimum), but Raistlin seemed pretty wimpy physically, too. After a pitched battle, his victory was complete. Second of all, Merlin hangs around dreamboats like Lancelot (purr!) John Constantine vs. Dr. Stephen Strange vs. Elminster vs. Gandalf vs. Dumbledor vs. Merlin vs. Medivh. Name Something you've created: The need for a library devoted to cataloguing all the things I've created. Elminster, the Sage of Shadowdale, is a legendary figure in the lore of Dungeons & Dragons, and he's much more than a simple copy of Gandalf. 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